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Harry Reid Says Mormons Being Led Down Wrong Path By LDS Leaders

Posted by Casey on October 16, 2007

No doubt you haven’t heard about Harry Reid attacking Christians last week because the media doesn’t dare smear him. However, it is even more unlikely that you’ve heard about Reid smearing his own church leadership for being right-wingers.

Reid said people often question how he can be a Democrat and a Mormon, but called the social responsibility Democrats espouse a good fit with the beliefs of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

He questioned the guidance of some LDS Church leaders, though.

In remarks to the media following his address, Reid said that, “In the past years we’ve had some very prominent members of the church, like Ezra Taft Benson, who are really right-wing people.

“Members of the church are obedient and followers in the true sense of the word, but these people have taken members of the church down the path that is the wrong path,” he said.

Then there is this little tidbit from the AP:

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Mormons were ill-served by the conservative politics of past church leaders.

Then after insulting past LDS leadership for being to conservative … Reid politely tells LDS members that their values are all screwed up.

He said Mormons must recognize there are more important issues than abortion and gay marriage. Reid opposes abortion.

“We have a country that needs to do something about health care. Global warming is here. We have a president who doesn’t know how to pronounce the words,” Reid said, referring to President Bush.

Harry, ever the hypocrite, thinks it is the “wrong path” for LDS leadership to uphold their traditional conservative beliefs, but he deems it ok to alter those beliefs to better coincide with the liberal agenda? For crying out loud … he told LDS members they should be more concerned with global warming than abortion!

When I spoke of this last night on my show, I received several calls from outraged LDS members who explained how the church goes out of its way to not endorse any candidate. Something that was stated very clearly in the RJ’s article.

The church does not endorse, promote or oppose political parties, candidates or platforms. Spokeswoman Kim Farah said church officials would not comment on Reid’s remarks.

To attack other faiths is bad enough, but to attack your own.


6 Responses to “Harry Reid Says Mormons Being Led Down Wrong Path By LDS Leaders”

  1. john said

    I wonder, does he have a current temple recommend? The one question I would be curious about in the temple interview would be, “Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow man?” What do YOU think? Can he dare answer honestly a “yes”? Or does he spin it and rationalize it, in a smoothing out process in his mind, which makes him think he is worthy of a temple recommend? Just curious? I mean, if anyone can even call themselves “worthy”, it is a mockery. Think about it. Harry Reid much less….geez!

  2. Kirt Stockwell said

    I have to tell you, I sincerely believe that Dirty Harry should be excommunicated. While the Church does not take action based on political opinions, I believe that it is perfectly within both the rights and the OBLIGATIONS of Church authorities to look into the activities of such a prominent “Mormon”.

    Any of the Temple recommend questions if honestly answered by Harry would result in his recommend being revoked.

    He does NOT deal honestly with his fellow man. His recent actions with regard to the “Health care legislation” display his dis-honestly clearly for all the world to see.

    He has voted FOR legislation that supports abortion. Surely this violates the respect for all life, particularly HUMAN life, that Heavenly Father expects from HIS children who have the Gospel in its’ fullness. Believing that Abortion is OK may be a POLITICAL BELIEF??? I believe it is a purely RELIGIOUS and MORAL question that bears on one’s worthiness. Much like the policy toward homosexuality, the CHURCH does not discipline for THOUGHTS, FEELINGS or INCLINATIONS. It is only when these are manifested in ACTIONS that Church discipline is invoked. My belief is that VOTING on a PRO ABORTION legislation takes his “political view” and turns it into direct action that is in conflict with basic tenets of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    He has criticized Church leadership in public and has made it clear that he believes that CHURCH LEADERS are WRONG, and that HE knows better than they what is truly best for the people. This kind of prideful thinking was displayed by a close relative before she turned on the Church and declared that the Prophet simply had not gotten the RIGHT revelation regarding a particular topic (a revelation that would support her chosen idealogy).

    Harry has participated in and voted for legislation that kills Americans (MORE each year than all the wars we are currently engaged in) by requiring higher CAFE standards for automobiles. Thousands of Americans die needlessly each year because the flimsy, “economical” cars they are driving hit something that wasn’t economical. At the same time he has participated in legislation that keeps America dependant on foriegn oil, which not only costs American jobs and is ruining our economy, but is the basis for the CAFE requirements. There is a concerted effort to subvert the Constitution of the United States and HARRY is in it up to his dirty eyeballs. SURELY this is in violation of the CHURCH policy that we be good citizens of whatever nation we reside in. A GOOD CITIZEN would neither author or sign such legislation as he has, and a good citizen would not be a party to the wholesale evil that is at the head of our government and has been for (about as long as HARRY has been in the Senate) YEARS now.

    Harry cuts DIRTY DEALS, does it in public or gets found out, and the PUBLIC sees this and is outraged. And he stands in front of world television cameras and LIES through his teeth. ANY informed citizen KNOWS he is lying, and HE KNOWS he is lying. Better than 54% of the country see Harry for what he is: A SLEAZY, CORRUPT, VENAL MACHINE POLITICIAN who has completely sold his soul to SATAN for a little POWER. At the very least HARRY should have his PRIESTHOOD RIGHTS revoked, as the Scripture is clear: As soon as any man begins to exercise dominion in any degree of unrighteousness…… Is there any doubt that Harry has done this? The well-publicised arm-twisting, threats, coercion, BRIBES paid to other legislators to PURCHASE their votes to secure a majority, ANY ONE of these should be enough by itself!

    The harm being done to the reputation of the Church by DIRTY HARRY is incalculable and ongoing. My belief is that unless the Church takes some action, and soon, and makes it PUBLIC, the Church will continue to take increasing damage from this horrifying HYPOCRITE!

    If Harry’s BISHOP and STAKE PRESIDENT have not yet contacted higher authorities to ask for guidance, then I would sincerely recommend to those individuals that they do so immediately. If the CHURCH fails to take action on Harry, I am afraid that their failure to do so will appear to many to be seen as aquiescing to Harry’s politics and his murderous legislative activities. And as the BISHOPS and STAKE PRESIDENTS are shepherds in Israel, they have an obligation to protect the CHURCH from people like Harry, and they have an obligation to people like HARRY to call them to repentance when they have clearly gone astray. If they fail to do so, they fail in their Priesthood responsibilities and place themselves in the line of responsibility for those evil things that Harry does that they do NOT call him into accountability for. Regardless, the Savior will hold Harry and his “Priesthood leaders” to account at the end.

    I have faith that Church leadership is fully aware of Mr. Reids (Can’t call him BROTHER and have any sincerity, sorry, my weakness) perfidy and his defiant stance. I have faith that at some point something will be done that at least will stop Harry from pretending to do his evil as a MEMBER of GOD’s KINGDOM in good standing. One filled with the Love of the SAvior could not possibly do what Harry does all day every day. I can’t concieve in my head how he can come home at the end of the day, read his scriptures, and pray as anything other than a PHARISEE.

    YES, I know that this sounds judgemental, but we are cautioned to not judge unrighteous judgements. At the same time, we need to judge many things and people daily in order to protect ourselves and our loved ones. If one is patently evil in both political and moral underpinnings, and does not even attempt to cover such up, does this not beg for each of us to JUDGE for ourselves whether this is righteous or not? Do we then not have an obligation, when we see evil incarnate, to warn our neighbors?

    Good citizens of Nevada! Protect yourselves from the judgements that fall upon those who support unrighteous leaders. Send this “saint” marching home.

    Many have been excommunicated for smaller and less widely destructive acts of evil.

    • Frank A. McCafferty said

      I was excommunicated over 20 years ago for stating that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. That experience really sunk in, how could the church beso anal about an individual stating that Jesus is his Lord and Savior? I have found since that as well as becoming a born again christian, I am of Jewish heritage. Praise God!

      In His Service,

      Frank A. McCafferty

      • Trevor said

        Mr. Cafferty,

        I shouldn’t even respond to your absurd statement but feel the need to call you out and make sure that anyone directed to this site knows that your claim cannot be true.

        There is zero truth to what you posted. No one would ever be excommunicated from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for “stating that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.”

        I find it hard to believe you were ever a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Wouldn’t it be ironic if someone was exed for “stating that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior” when the name of the church bears the His name?

        I wish you well, though. And my God bless you, especially during the Christmas season as we remember the birth of our Lord and Savior. I love the Lord and know he is my Savior and am grateful for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose teachings center around that truth.

      • Kirt Stockwell said

        Brother Frank,

        Thank you for your comment, and Merry Christmas to you. Since your post did not address the Harry Reid issue but rather addressed your excommunication, I will address that.

        I too was excommunicated many years ago, for sins that I committed. I have, however, never wavered in my faith and have attended, prayed, and studied the Gospel lessons and Scriptures nearly 100% for these years. So you must believe me when I tell you that I know something about the Church court system, about the Doctrine of the Gospel, and of the expectations of our Savior as to how we think, feel, and behave.

        Forgive, but I find the statement that you were excommunicated for stating that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior to be unlikely on its face. The Church Doctrine is that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Redeemer, that in and through Him the worlds were created, and that ONLY through Him can we be saved in the Kingdom of our Father. If this is exactly what you were stating, then I must conclude that something about the way you were stating it must have been not in keeping with the Church’s expectations of the proper behavior of those who purport to preach the Gospel. And given the heirarchical nature of the Church disciplinary system, it cannot have been a matter of saying something one time and getting thrown out.

        Preaching of false or incorrect doctrines, preaching in a combative or manipulative manner, taking authority one does not have, these things will get one a meeting with the Bishop. If you and the Bishop cannot resolve the issue in a spirit of love and obedience to the LORD’s will, and the behavior continues, then the Stake Presidency becomes involved. And while it is humanly possible that those fifteen men could all choose an unrighteous path and initiate a Church court against an innocent individual, it would be unlikely in the extreme. Also, all excommunications are examined by the Brethren at the highest levels. This is to help assure that such travesties do not occur.

        I am not judging. I am saying, as one who aknowledges that I was Xed for righteous cause, and who remains outside of the Church pending my making complete some essential repentances, that any of us who have been Xed would do well to spend much time on our knees praying for guidance and mostly praying for the ability to exercise complete self-honesty. For without this we absolutely cannot be saved. And we need to look particularly closely at the scriptures, especially as they portray the life and example of our Savior. He submitted with complete humility to all of the trials of life, obeyed all of God’s laws, and lived his entire life without giving unrighteous offense to any man. He was baptised not because He needed baptism but because He wanted to provide the example to us.

        I would encourage you to go back in your mind to the time before your excommunication and look with full self-honesty at your activities and attitudes. I know, because I watched my own mother do it, that it is completely possible to come to believe false doctrine and to begin to believe that the Prophet and the Brethren are misled or as my mother put it (funny, also exactly how Harry put it) they believe that the Prophet simply hasn’t recieved the RIGHT revelation yet. And while this apostacy was taking place, the whole time my mother would have told anyone that she was faithful and true. No doubt Harry Reid is in that same situation. He has clearly drifted. Our challenge is to keep ourselves from drifting, and if we find ourselves off course, to go back to the master map and re-examine our course with our destination in mind.

        I do congratulate you on finding that you are of Jewish heritage by blood descent. It is always gratifying to know from whom we descend, and to know how we all fit together into that massive, unified family matrix that is the Celestial Kingdom.

        Please don’t take my comments amiss. I intend no hurt or offense, but rather hope to be able to encourage you along the way of happiness. The Gospel as preached by the Church is true. There may at times be people in leadership positions locally that are out of the way, but this is blessedly rare. It sounds as though you have turned from the Church and chosen another way. I hope this is not the case. Once we KNOW, to turn our backs on the truth leaves us with no excuse at the last day.

        May the Lord bless you with joy and peace in your heart at this Christmas time.

        Your Brother,

        Kirt Stockwell

  3. Mark Lynch said

    Harry Reid needs to read his own scriptures. Or perhaps he needs to read them again, because he clearly either doesn’t understand them, or just doesn’t care.
    “For behold, my beloved brethren, I say unto you that the Lord God worketh not in darkness.” 2 Nephi 26:23.
    Speaking of leaders in the last days, (and this refers to Church Members, not “gentiles”)the scriptures say:
    “Yea, and there shall be many which shall teach after this manner, false and vain and foolish doctrines, and shall be puffed up in their hearts, and shall seek deep to hide their counsels from the Lord; and their works shall be in the dark.” 2 Nephi 28:9
    Of those who pervert the truth, the Lord says this:
    “And wo unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord! And their works are in the dark; and they say: Who seeth us, and who knoweth us? And they say: Surely, your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter’s clay. But behold, I will show unto them, saith the Lord of Hosts, that I know all their works.” If the scripture holds true that says, “by their FRUITS ye shall know them,” what does that tell us about a man who conducts his “works” in the dark, behind closed doors, open Only to those who have pledged allegiance to the secret combination that put and keeps them in power? Just like Korihor, Harry Reid speaks words that are “pleasing to the carnal mind,” because it allows him to set himself up to get gain. “And their works are in the dark.” I think that says it all.

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